Can Restaurants Legally Add Gratuity?

Patron Paying BillMost people have seen the small mention of added gratuity at the bottom of restaurant menus. It is usually for groups of eight or more, but sometimes it’s added even for groups of six, or seven. This begs the question: Can restaurants legally add gratuity to your bill? The answer is a simple “yes”, as long as it is disclosed in advance.

In fact, most any fee a restaurant wants to add is legal as long as it is adequately disclosed. There are fees for delivery, for using credit cards, having an order to go, boxing up leftovers, drinking water (even tap), and many more. As long as it is disclosed and not discriminatory (such as a senior citizen surcharge), it is legally allowed. Whether customers will tolerate the fees, however, is another matter altogether.

Why do restaurants include gratuity for large parties?

The extra work that servers have when dealing with large groups requires that they devote a large majority of their time to one party, reducing tips available from other parties. Servers make decent tips by serving multiple tables and doing it well. By adding a mandatory gratuity, servers are ensured of getting an adequate tip for serving such a large party.

One major casual dining establishment added the fee for groups of eight or more only after repeated complaints and issues from servers. Vocal wait staff was incensed at being paid such poor tips for such hard work on large group parties. Soon, they were refusing sections with groups deliberately. One server received such a horrible gratuity from a group that, by the time she tipped the bartender and busboy, she was in the red and in tears.

When other eateries heard about the added gratuity for groups, the concept took off and is now common place. It is now rare to not find a mandatory tip requirement for large groups.

What is the average added gratuity?

Most casual sit-down restaurants appear to have gratuity for large groups set at around 15%, while fine dining establishments edge closer to 18%. The exceptional few are as high as 20%. Additionally, most establishments only have mandatory gratuity on large groups or on things like hotel room service, poolside food, or delivery service.

A few take-out restaurants that deliver add an automatic gratuity, but most just add a delivery fee and prominently mention it is not a gratuity. However, a major pizza delivery chain charges a $2.49 convenience fee for deliveries and reminds customers it is not a gratuity. What most customers don’t know is that each driver is paid $1.49 of that fee for gas/auto expenses at the end of the night based on each delivery. So, in reality, it is a mandatory gratuity—albeit a small one.

Can you opt out of added gratuity?

Usually, added gratuity for large groups is a done deal. Most restaurants also do a good job of prominently placing a sign or notice near the hostess stand and in the menu. However, if service wasn’t up to par or you had to repeatedly ask for refills, ask for a manager. Usually, the manager will want to please the group and reduce the tip to whatever you feel is appropriate. However, some may refuse to budge and will just say the mandatory gratuity is set and clearly noted on the menu.

If you pay it but really feel you were forced to add gratuity for sub-par service, you do have another option. Although this is not a sure-thing, you can pay the bill with the added gratuity and then dispute the charge with your credit card provider. With good documentation and witness statements, it could very well be reversed. Or, even better, the restaurant will see the dispute and settle it amicably.

Do people avoid restaurants with mandatory gratuity?

Most people are going to an eatery for the food and service, and if they are both excellent then gratuity is a minor issue. It is unlikely that mandatory gratuity is going to stop loyal customers, but newcomers may be put off by the policy. The few times people really take issue with forced gratuity are when service is, well, not service.

People who are opposed to mandatory tipping explain their reason is simply that the server has no incentive to provide superior service and outstanding care during the meal if he is already assured of receiving a fixed gratuity anyway. No matter how delayed a waiter is at refills or how inattentive they are to their table, they are guaranteed a nice gratuity. This doesn’t entirely seem right.

As comparison, imagine a child who always gets $50 allowance each month and a child who gets $20 a week only if they do all of their chores. Which child do you think is going to work harder?

Many consumers feel having a mandatory gratuity, no matter how great the restaurant’s intention, prevents the staff from truly earning a tip. It takes the choice away from the customer on how to recognize good, or bad, service.

  1. Jerry Rhinestonne

    I always eat at places where there is no Gratuity added, but I do leave a small tip around 7% of the total. The waitress waits on 10 tables per hour with and average tip of $1.65 do the math, that’s making good money to some people. Why add Gratuity.

    • Casey

      Jerry, you should try waiting tables before you make up numbers. First of all, as servers, we wait on at MOST 4-5 tables at a time. There is no way any server can handle 10 tables at a time; this is impossible without incredibly INCREDIBLY slow service. A server taking care 10 tables in one hour is absolute BS. Second, many places have a tip-out, which means that we have to pay out from the tips that we receive. This figure is generally 2-4% of our SALES, not our tips but our SALES, which means that if we do not get tipped by a table, we actually LOSE money by serving them because the tip-out is based on the food that was sold. Here where I am, most restaurant servers generally get paid $2.13 per hour, and tips make up the rest of our wages. Finally — all servers anywhere will have sidework. This is work that they have to do while they’re serving and have to finish up after they are done serving tables. The server cannot leave work until they have completed all the sidework. The sidework generally takes anywhere from 30 to 90, and possibly even 2 hours to complete.

      Now, let’s assume that in one hour, you can serve about 4 tables (this is an overestimate, the reality is more around 2-3). Assuming that each table orders on average, $30 worth of food and tips a standard 15%, then from 4 tables you’ll get $4.50×4 = $18. $18 + $2.13 = $20.13. $20 an hour wage for a serving position is looking pretty good right? Now we go to the tip-out, which is, where I work, 3.25% of sales. $30 x 4 = $120 3.25% of $120 = $3.90. So take out $3.90 from our wage: $20.13-$3.90 = $16.93

      So $16.23 an hour; still pretty decent eh? Don’t forget that servers have sidework too – the average is around one hour to finish up the sidework so they have to work for one more hour or so with no tables there for tips. ($16.23 + $2.13)/2 = $9.18 per hour.

      Not looking so good anymore is it? And that’s assuming that everyone is tipping at 15% too. Imagine what your server would be making if everyone tipped like you did at 7%. Not to mention, 4 tables starting and finishing in just one hour is an overestimate. The more appropriate estimate would be around 2-3 tables.

      In any case 7% is an absolutely TERRIBLE tip for service. If you’re tipping at 7%, you’re basically saying to your server that they did a horrible job of serving you. It’s pretty insulting to receive any tip under 15%, unless you could see that they just weren’t even trying to give you good service (like going out to take a smoke while you needed refills or something, and people were waiting on their checks).

      If you can’t afford to tip, why go to full service restaurants? McDonalds/Wendy’s would be happy to see you.

      • Raising Ur Bar

        @Casey Wow! Well said.

        • Charity

          I am a server and there are many days where I only have 1 or less than 1 table per hour because business is slow. If I give phenomenal service and am lucky to earn a 20% tip, I will make $3 or $4 that hour.

          • Thanks Obama, Clinton, Carter, et al.

            Servers get angry at diners if they don’t automatically give a voluntary tip.
            Diners get angry at bad servers and restaurants for not paying the real minimum wage.
            Restaurants are (often) laughing their way to the bank.
            No one is asking why numerous Congresses, and Presidents,
            includin several Democrats with Super Majorities, haven’t repealed
            ALL ninimum wage loopholes AND raised it based on inflation.
            There must be powerful & rich lobbyists in the few industries who
            pay 1/3 of everyone else.
            Dont blame each other, blame DC Politicians.

      • Bruce

        Tips do not make up wages. Wages are paid to you by your employer. A tip or gratuity is a voluntary token of appreciate to an individual for exemplary service. It is not obligatory. If you are looking for someone to pay you more money, you should have a talk with your employer.
        Tips/Gratuities have become a means for a restaurant owner to insulate themselves from having to pay wages on low earning days. On a slow night, the owner doesn’t have to pay their wait staff a living wage while not selling meals. The restauranteur externalizes the wage on to the customer.
        Also, a tip/gratuity, if offered, is for the person that went above and beyond to make the customer’s experience exceptional. It’s not for those that don’t interact with the customer (bussing staff, cooks, accountants, managers, dishwashers, etc.), as they earn a wage to do their job.
        Offering a tip or gratuity is the customer’s choice to give, not the restaurant’s. When I eat out, any gratuity “automatically added to the bill” will be subsequently removed, the total recalculated, and the restaurant will be added to our boycott list.
        I’m happy to compliment great service with a tip, but I’ll never have a restaurant tell me I have to.

        • Nicole

          The legal wage for servers is less than the minimum wage due to the fact that servers receive tips. Legally, no, you cannot be FORCED to leave a tip. You are, however, still obligated to tip. It’s not just the restaurant choosing the wage – it a system that is reinforced by the law. If you are unwilling to participate in the same system as everyone else, don’t go out to eat.

        • Kevin

          The restaurant externalizes all costs onto the customer Bruce.
          How do you think they stay in business. Sounds like you have been listening to Obama and Co. for to long. I am sure you have no idea what the profit margin of a restaurant is or how hard servers work. As a matter of fact when are you going to change out of your pajamas. It is getting late.

          • pam anderson

            yo bruce, as a server i tip out almost 30 percent of my tips to pay for the bartenders and support staff and now my restaurant wants to take 10 percent of my large party tips to pay the kitchen staff…. they take from the servers before they take from the guests.

        • pam anderson

          YOU suck, servers don’t make minimum wage cause reasons. WE ALL KNOW THIS. If you have a great time and leave less than 20% you suck. It’s not about going above and beyond. you are going to a place where you don’t have to buy the food, prepare it, have someone talk to you about it and serve you all these items while making sure your glasses are full and you enjoy your meal. stay at home if you don’t want to tip appropriately.

          • CT Yankee

            The tipping culture is obnoxious. When I browse a menu the prices are high enough. If the restaurateur can’t be honest then the problem is systematic. You can defend the system, but it’s STILL flawed!

          • MarkAnthony

            And I dont give a shit what a waiter or waitress does with their money. Telling a customer to tip because you give your money away for a tip out is Your business. All these fucking cry babies complaining how hard they work like they’re the only ones with a hard job. Cry me a river people dont tip for how hard someone works. They tip according to amount of bill. Giving somebody money for their service is gratuity to show gratitude. I give my plumber and mechanic gratuity you tip a waiter Not gratuity because they are no longer grateful.

        • Clark O.

          Bruce Almighty,

          I’ve held all positions host, waiter and restaurant operator. For the most part none of them are getting rich. Average return on a well ran fast food joint is 7%. Average return on a well ran restaurant is 5%. With a failure rate upwards of 60%… To answer a few of your points.

          The “owner” must pay the difference up to minimum wage anytime a waiter doesn’t make at least that much. This puts the power in your hands to decide if they are going to make minimum wage or not. You don’t like your service than don’t tip that much. The restaurant will have to make up the difference, you win. You go back in to eat again, just know waiters remember. It all balances out!

          I would say more often than not, at a good restaurant, a waiter is happy to pay auxiliary help. Busser makes tips to keep waiters table cleaned so they can get more tables, takes a lot of time to do it yourself. Most waiters are happy to not have to bus their own tables. Bartenders have drinks waiting so the waiter doesn’t have to make them. Typically you only tip them out on your bar drink sales. TIPS CANNOT GO TO ANYONE WHO DOESN’T WORK FRONT OF HOUSE, IT’S ILLEGAL.

          Lastly, people like you should love the current system, b/c if not, with 5% profit margins most places, with new minimum wage laws. will surely have to add most of the cost into the food. And at that point you’ll have no choice to “tip” or not.

          Your overall ignorance rings loudly in your post on here, what do you do for a living? Let us ignorantly tear that apart from the outside.

      • Will

        Tip outs are illegal in most states. Why should he have to suffer because your employer breaks the law? In face, your employer is legally REQUIRED to compensate you up to the federal minimum wage of 7.25 an hour if you make less than that. Sounds like an employer/employee issue, not an employee/customer one.

      • Gi

        I go to restaurants for fast food, not for service. If I were to make the same meal on the menu, it would take me hours, I likely wouldn’t have the same recipe, and etc. It’s not a customer’s responsibility to give waiters/waitresses a living wage. Those are problems of the restaurant. They’re the ones showing artificially low prices, to then guilt trip people into paying for tips. As long as tips aren’t legally mandatory, it’s an act of charity. If everyone stopped paying tips, that burger would maybe appear $6 instead of $4, and then I’d truly know I couldn’t afford it. But when it costs $4, I have no other option for food, and I’m on a limited budget, I can’t exactly be as generous with my tipping as I would be if I say, won the lottery. The bigger problem is why waiters/waitresses are put in unstable positions ($2 per hour wages) to produce adequate work. Why not just pay them $10 an hour and expect good work, or else, fire/retrain them? Otherwise, why not tip in all industries? Why don’t we tip our doctors, teachers, pilots, cashiers, etc.? It’s an inefficient system, all together. I don’t owe a waiter/waitress tip, their employer does. Until I win the lottery, I’ll continue rounding until the highest number, or at most, 1 or 2 bucks higher (ex. $13.43 to $15), and I’m not doing anything wrong.

        • crys

          As a server and a bartender, I haves absolutely no words for you. Please stay at home and cook your own food.

          • baramose

            or YOU could get an education and a REAL job if you think you could be paid based on attendance and not how well you treat your customers

      • Nat

        In my state, tipped workers are paid at least minimum wage and bartenders are paid a few dollars an hour more than that. While I do always tip 10-20%, I do it reluctantly.

        This is an entry level job and requires no education or skill beyond what would be expected of a high school graduate, yet every server or bartender I know earns significantly more than low-level skilled workers (pharmacy techs, car repair, nursing assistants, customer service middle management, first year teachers, medical assistants, insurance agents, the list goes on).

        The job requires the same amount of education and skill as other customer service jobs and should be paid the same – minimum wage. Tips are a nice perk, but it makes me uncomfortable that they are considered, at least socially, mandatory.

        Disclaimer: I waited tables for 3 years and made roughly twice as much money doing that as I did bathing and caring for the elderly and dying as a nursing assistant (a job that I went to school for two months for and had to pass a state exam and take continuing ed for continued licensure).

    • Henry

      yes, because you are cheap person. Servers are making only min. wages.

      • Bruce


        It’s the restaurant owner that is the cheap person for only paying their staff minimum wage or less.

      • carlue

        Sad for you to complain about the fact that YOUR employer is cheap and doesn’t think that he/she should have to pay their employees……this has nothing to do with a customer being cheap….wages are mandatory tips are earned and voluntary for you to attack a customer is very sickening as it is not the customers responsibility to make sure you have a descent wage, that is yours and yours alone. If you don’t think you are being paid enough that is between you and your employer not you and the customer….waiters/waitresses attitudes on this make customers not want to return to the establishments. By the way; tips started out as a compliment to the chef/cook for cooking a good meal. It was something that the patron did because they wanted to not because it was expected and it is sad that YOUR employer exploited this and decided to try to make the customer pay for his/her service help. When and if a tip is added to my bill without my permission I have it removed and I am no longer a patron……I tipped in cash one time then got to the cashier to pay my bill and they added another tip on the bill and because of the greediness of the establishment I removed the tip from the table and canceled the charge on my credit card and only paid the amount on the bill…..why because it was my right to and Tips are a thank you for good service from me to the server not a requirement. I am not your employer and it is not my job to pay your wages.

        • Jeff Rice

          Very well said !!!!
          The mentality of current waiters and waitresses is stupid.
          If you don’t like your job for whatever reason QUIT !
          Get a job requiring actual skills. Waiters and waitresses need an education level of what….. a 5th grader.
          Get educated and move on to a higher paying job OR stay stuck in your minimum wage, low skilled job.
          Your choice.

    • Nick

      To Jerry and everyone else who insists that tipping is not mandatory,
      Please stay the fuck home. If you are tipping 7% gratuity when you go out, stick to fast food, walk up counters, buffet style restaurants, and food carts. Servers, bus boys, runners and bartenders work extremely hard for tips, and they do just that WORK FOR TIPS.
      Given the amount of staff required to run a restaurant the only way to appropriately compensate them is to rely on the costumer to tip on their bill. It is impossible to run a profitable business by paying higher rates to “floor staff” without jacking up the price of everything that YOU are going to consume. Most restaurants run roughly between a 30% labor cost, 20% beverage 30% food and 10% gas, lights and rent, and that doesn’t include other operating expenses… that doesn’t leave much for the owner to take home.

      • K

        Nick, you’re right… I own the small family run restaurant. The expenses (rent, NNN, electricity, gas, etc) and food cost are the biggest things in the restaurant. It doesn’t leave much for the owner to take home, it’s correct… I want to quit so bad but if I do, I will be indebted like hell. Hopefully one day, it will get better… Some customers who never tip the servers, in my opinion, it’s not fair… they live on the tip with minimum pay. Please understand our restaurant business.

        • anna

          you said it at the end, tips and minimum pay, many servers do not care enough to research their rights, they are supposed to be paid at least minimum wage, if this is not met by tips then the employer is to pay the rest, if you cook decent food, give at least decent service you will get a nice amount of patrons willing to come back and keep your business going, I have worked in the kitchen, waiting and washing dishes, what I see a lot is employers making servers “share” tips with non-wait staff, that is not right, it is the responsibility of the employer to cover that, and if as a server you do more than 2 hrs of non-tipped work(cleaning) then minimum wage is to be paid, overtime is to be paid no matter what tips you get and the employer can never get any of the tips, ultimately, if you think you should be tipped more and are not getting it, then find a better paid job, eventually I did and never went back to food service, and let me add that I earned good money even then.

      • james

        Nick, where do you work? I want to come to your restaurant, and leave you 0% tip and see what the fuck are you going to do about it? I type papers nigh and day and dont freaking remember anybody TIPPED me for my work. And if restaurants cannot sustain their business to pay their employee properly, then screw them. Tough shit! Let them go out of business, that is the fact for any damn business. Tips are voluntary and if you have problem with that, dont tell me to stay at home, you go and find another job. however, I highly doubt that you can do that….

      • MarkAnthony

        Well said Bruce and Nick can eat a fat dick. Telling people to stay home because you dont have the balls to confront your boss that every state must pay employees at least minimum wage. Gratuity is gratitude. As soon as a costumer ask how much should I leave for a tip All waiters and waitresses say its up to your descretion. They dont dare say it is a mandatory 20% at the time because that would be rude but All you cowards will get behind a computer instead of demanding your employer to follow the law.

    • jessica davis

      Jerry, you’re an idiot & refrain from eating in restaurants that offer table service. You’re doing servers an injustice.

    • San

      I am impressed by your comment. YOU ARE CHEAP!

    • MegaBatMan

      Jerry come work for me for 7%.
      I dare you to do that to fine dining place if you know what that is .

    • Joan

      The government taxes tipped employees for their tips and they “assume” an 8% tip on all sales. The company must report the total of each servers tips and the server must claim all their tips as income, if the server is audited by the IRS the IRS will make them pay at the least 8% of all sales. So, the person that said 7% is plenty…has no idea what he is talking about. These servers usually have to tip the busser and the bartenders from their own tips. The bussers make at least the federal min. wage and the bartenders are paid much more plus tips. The server makes 2.13 per hour. The manager wants to make sure all of the customers are happy and have excellent service. Since the server costs them the least amount of money that’s the staff they over schedule. So, now you have too many servers and not enough business for them to make any money. I think servers should make the federal min wage plus tips.

    • kevin

      Dude, you are a waiter/waitress/deliver driver’s worst nightmare. Who are you to say whats a ‘good wage’ for someone? Tips are 70/80% of a persons overall income. I always start out with a 20% tip and it can go up or down from there, depending on service.


      • Ben

        Question. How am I supposed to judge the service if a delivery driver? With a waiter it’s easy to tell if the reason they are late is because the restaurant is busy or the waiter is goofing off. All you have to do is look around. With a driver you have know way to tell if the reason he is late is due to something like traffic or him goofing off because you CAN’T see what he is doing.

  2. Justin

    As a reply to your statement Jerry “why add gratuity?” Let’s do the math as you said a server has 10 tables an makes $1.65 per table that is $16.50 which could be in their entire shift. Lets for argument sake say a shift is 4 hrs. So take your $16.50 / 4 = $4.12 add in a server wage of $2.35 you get $6.45/hour. So this server just made less than minimum wage. Now do you think it’s fair to not add the stated gratuity??? If you worked in this industry you would be a little more understanding. Don’t get me wrong there are nights this server could make far more than minimum wage, however in your example that was not the case. You take the good with the bad an in your case it will most defiantly always be bad. Just my 2 cents thank you an hopefully now you have a better understanding of why gratuities are added.


    • carlue

      For your information if you read the laws on minimum wages for wait staff you would no that if a tipped employee does not make the minimum wage in any given hour after including the tips it is their EMPLOYERS responsibility to make it up so if the 2.13 or whatever it is now + the tips don’t add up to the actual minimum wage it means that it is made up in the paycheck that the employee gets from their employer and if their employer is not paying them equal to minimum wage it is the employees responsibility to make the employer pay it or report them to their labor board as the employer is violating the minimum wages laws. It is your job as an employee to know your rights and it is your job to make sure your employer is not abusing your rights….it is not the customers job to pay employees wages it is your employers and your employers alone job to pay their employees so stop trying throwing this off on the customers.

      • Nicole

        If you don’t like how the system works, don’t go out to eat.

      • jessica davis

        not true. small businesses that are less than quota compared to chain restaurants, do not have to make up for the servers pay difference. get it right.

  3. Danny

    I can understand auto gratuity for large groups (like greater than 6 people say). But when my gf and I went out to a Japanese grill, gratuity was not mentioned by the server nor was printed on the menu. When I got the bill, it was ~$80 + 20% gratuity + tax. I normally leave 15-20% pending on service, but just having this option taken out of my control makes me upset. If restaurants need the extra income to cover their staff cost, why not just raise their overall menu prices??? What’s next? a fee for reservation? Window seat fee? Imagine if every other services starting tacking gratuity fees, like cab drivers, furniture delivery guys… just makes no sense from the consumer satisfaction point of view.

  4. Brad

    As the owner of a restaurant let me set this straight. Tipped employees minimum wage is now $4.76 per hour. Most shifts run 6 hours. The IRS taxes their Credit Card tips which are seen by all and then assumes at least 10% of any cash exchanges is taxed as well. Servers also must tip out backservers (bussers) and bar from what they make. My restaurant tips the bar 5% of all bar sales from the servers and 3% of all food sales to bussers. If you are leaving less than 10% then that server just paid more than they made. Some restaurants tip out the host and the kitchen as well. It is stated on my menu that 20% gratuity will be added to all parties of 6 or more and any table that splits checks.

  5. Linda

    Why do restaurants feel it is their customers responsibility to pay the restaurants’ employees. It is the employers who should pay them. No other business forces the customer to pay their employees wages. Gratuitys should be optional and be extra monies( To Insure Prompt Service)

    • Jessica

      Thank you! This is exactly how I feel. A restaurant owner above is explaining all that he has to pay to the bussboys, bar staff, minimum wage e.t.c. Why should I as someone who was hungry and just came in simply to eat food be concerned with the mathematics of you running your business? Why should I have to be bothered about someones living expenses when all I came to do is eat food for crying out loud?! Tipping should be what it is, a gracious gift for excellent service, a thank you, A TIP! Restaurant and waitstaff are now feeling entitled that it is my obligation, recently a friend and I went to a restaurant and at the end of the meal had a auto gratuity tacked on, this used to be for groups of 6 or more, even the IRS recognizes auto gratuities for groups of 6 or more as not tips but service charges, now some restaurants are adding it anyway as an obligation.
      This practice is becoming annoying and it’s my research on the legalities of this that brought me to this page because I do not want to be forced to pay a “tip”, I believe I have the right to decide where my money goes and how much of it depending on the service I receive. This is also where I agree with Ed below, it is now becoming a form of extortion.

      • Nicole

        As I replied to someone above, this system is reinforced by the legal minimum wage for servers. If anything were to be changed, it’s up to the government to change the laws regarding server pay. There is nothing the server can do. It’s not a “gift,” as you say. An exceptional tip, yes, that would be a thank you for great service. But you KNOW all this information about how servers are paid. It’s common knowledge. If you decide you’re hungry and go out to get food at a sit-down establishment, you know this is what’s expected of you. If you’re not willing to do it, don’t go out.

        Really, I don’t understand why people complain about tipping in the first place. Tipping exists so the customer can decide how much the server deserves as a tip. If you think that restaurants should be paying their employees a higher wage, your food is just going to cost more, and you won’t have any say how much you pay.

        Also – most servers don’t expect large tips if they give poor service. But they should still be compensated for serving you, even if it’s small.

      • Shelby

        I find it absolutely ridiculous that people seriously think it’s okay to not tip simply because they believe the restaurant owner should pay their wait staff a living wage. It is customary in the United States to tip for services…and that extends beyond restaurant wait staff, but servers are by far the least paid. Most restaurant owners are not going to pay their staff more than they have to – that’s pretty typical of many business owners. If our country has a culture of tipping, it becomes expected that you tip. If the service isn’t adequate, that’s a different story.
        Servers don’t just drop off food and take your order. Most wait staff want to ensure you have an enjoyable meal too. People always joke about how crappy staff at fast food joints are…you don’t think you have to tip? Fine, you should expect McDonald’s type of service. Most of those employees don’t care whether you like your meal or not, they don’t care if your table is dirty, they don’t care to tell you about new products, they don’t care how long it takes for you to get your food. If you want to be served by staff that makes the federal minimum wage, you can expect sub-par service. That’s not exactly desirable when you’re on a first date, or taking a client out for a lunch meeting.
        It’s ridiculous how cheap some of you people are. You understand the expectation when walking in to a sit-down restaurant…if you don’t tip, go ahead and let your server know ahead of time.

  6. Ed

    I have been to many counties where tipping is illegal. They look at it as a form of extortion that they don’t want to get started and always makes people feel uncomfortable when they are having a nice evening.

  7. Pamilyn Kennedy

    I have been doing this work since I was a young teen-ager which adds up to more than 40 years. I am FIRMLY against an added gratuity for family or small parties, and have clashed and been suspended for fighting it, there are SOME arguments.

    I have worked with more servers that DID NOT deserve tips than did. There are students trying to earn spending money, and slackers that do it because it’s easy money, and then there are people like me that do it because they love it. I am excellent at what I do. It is my goal to treat people as if they deserve only the best, and I give it to them. I do this with enthusiasm and a great deal of pride.

    But this has required me in a lot of cases to deal with “the gimmee’s”. A party (for example) of four that can not order their drinks a the same time, that will ask for a condiment, and when you return with it will ask for another, then another.I always set my tables as soon as I submit the order, meaning I get everything on the table BEFORE the food arrives, so I am astounded when I encounter this issue.

    Then there is “the orderer” who must interfere when anyone orders or asks a question. Any experienced sever deals with an order in an orderly way, yet it’s very frustrating when one person at the table insists on controlling the table.

    Separate checks are NO BIG DEAL! But there always seems to be someone that has to make you aware of this ten times while you are trying to take the order for one table. Orders are submitted as ONE, and splitting them isn’t an issue for any competent server, yet it’s SUCH A BIG DEAL for cheap people that are so afraid of being linked to family and friends they have CHOSEN to dine with!

    I believe with all of my heart that gratuity should be the choice of the patron. I have fought it being added for as long as I can remember. Servers, however, did not create the pay scales and rates. I personally have not received a paycheck in years, but I pay more taxes than most every month as a result of it. I do not regret my choice of employment because I really believe I make dining a very pleasurable experience for anyone I serve, but believe that blaming your server for the fact that tips are there only income, and that is a fact in more than 98% of food servers, anyone should be ashamed to not honor gratuity on large parties (more than 20 people), and should tip BASED ON SERVICE as well as knowledge.

    If you want excellent service be prepared to pay for it. If you get poor service, don’t just leave a bad tip! See a manager! Don’t punish a whole group of people because you have one that doesn’t appreciate you or their job!

  8. Snooks

    What a lot of you servers are not saying is that under federal law you must receive minimum wage. If you are not receiving the minimum wage for the hours you work,your employer MUST make up the difference. I bet you were never told that he must ensure that you get at least the minimum wage after tip outs and other expenses for bus boys etc.
    Keep records of hours and tips,then collect from employer if the amount does not amount to at least the minimum wage.

  9. Peter Rilling

    A couple years ago I took my family to an Indian restaurant. There were about ten of us. They added 18% to the bill and I lowered it when paying; however, they confronted me before leaving and after a discussion I paid the full amount to avoid the hassle, but will never return. The much lowered amount was more than adequate and here is why. The restaurant was buffet style, meaning we each had to get up and serve ourselves from a food lineup. And when it came to refilling water, they only filled a couple pitchers on the table, requiring us to fill our own glasses. Can anyone tell me how this is work 18%?

  10. David

    Peter, I had a similar problem at a Mothers’ Day brunch. I refused to pay the mandatory tip as there were only four of us. Standard tip amount for buffets is only around 10%, but as with any tip percentage, this is just a guideline. There was certainly NO justification for a 18% tip. I stood my ground talking to the manager at the Maitre’ D station and whether he either didn’t want to make a scene or agreed, he accepted my payment. A tip is not a service charge, and I do not believe it can be legally dictated.

  11. Ted Darcy

    A tip should be earned regarless the size of the dining party. a large group is more patrons! DUH? That’s the goal of being in business, customers. Why charge more for the customer that is bringing more business? If the agrument is the time wasted on one table, then pay your servers more. You just made more money. simple.

  12. vicki

    I really hope someone can help me.
    I was discriminated and refused delivery from a restaurant. The manager lied and said his delivery guys were sick and afterwards told me the tip is too small. Then later said they had bad experiences with me and my address which is an untrue claim and I demand proof of this. Is there a place where I can file a claim?

    • dave


  13. Ivan

    Plain and simple. If you are leaving a poor tip, I as a servers, and I’m sure 90% of servers out there will be more than ok with that when you as the poor tipper let us know about your tipping beforehand.

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  15. simon

    leave a tip. While a gratuity can be added it can be asked to be taken off for a different amount ranging from $0.00 to as much as the person wishes to tip.
    Tip: a small present of money given directly to someone for performing a service or menial task; Gratuity: a gift of money, over and above payment due for service, as to a waiter or bellhop;
    Gift: something given voluntarily without payment in return, as to show favor toward someone, honor an occasion, or make a gesture of assistance;
    Voluntarily, being the emphasis in the argument, you (Owner) cannot make an arbitrary decision to force someone involuntarily pay. :p

  16. Susab


    Why not do away with tipping?

    And, why are restaurants adding “tip” jars to counters – like Chipotle, etc? No one is serving me – shouldn’t the cost of business (handing the food over the counter) be included?

    Hairdressers – with the current high charges – make more an hour than I do – and I work in an establishment that “serves” customers but we don’t require tips/gratuities.

  17. Adam

    I am ALWAYS willing to leave a tip and while it’s not always 15% or more, it’s often more and it’s at least 10%. I’ve read some comments and I’ve just got to say that I don’t agree that I should just “stay home” if I can’t afford a tip that you will like as a server. If I were a server I would not even say that. The customer is welcome into the establishment so long as they can pay the bill. Period. Now, if you recognize me as a poor tipper and subsequently refuse to serve me so be it. That is your decision. Although I am not a poor tipper. Just for argument alone. Most restaurants are not the kind that tip out to bussers and such.

    I also have friends in the bar based restaurant service industry that can bring down $3,000 a weekend after tipouts. And this is not the highest dollar establishment, nor is it a restaurant that forces tips. SO, you have to choose well where you serve at as store volume and clientele should be paramount in your search for gainful employment if your field of service is serving food and alcohol.

    I LOATHE forced gratuities. ESPECIALLY when I am not apprised to the fact until after the bill comes. And when it is +15%.

    As a consumer I can tell you from my perspective that at least from me you are making less working for an establishment that forces a gratuity (which is an oxymoron and legally contradictory and a gratuity is completely voluntary based upon good service or withheld for bad) than you would if you worked for a place that didn’t. It’s the principle of the matter. If you force me as an establishment to pay 15%, then that is what I’m going to pay. IF your establishment on the other hand does NOT tack on an auto-tip to my bill, based on your performance you could receive anywhere from a 20- upwards of a 50% tip. So you are sacrificing the BIG TIP from me, to insure you don’t go lacking from the ones who DON’T tip. Which my tip may eclipse the tips that you receive in total for your 15% off each table individually. So therefore you lose money by default.

    Granted I am a bit of a rare bird. I’m a man of principle and one of those is that a tip that is forced is not a tip, it’s a fee. However if that fee is billed as a tip, I will pay that fee, but nothing more. I have more money to spend in tips when there is not added fees.

    If I’m really insulted by the forced gratuity tipping policy however, there is a different option available to me which has been exercised in the past which is not utilizing your services and the services of your place of employment by going to a like establishment that does not engage in such fee impositions. Which on a slow night, you would miss me. Especially if you didn’t presuppose my tip amount and let me make that decision.

  18. Adam

    *Please note that my problem is not with the servers, it’s with the establishments that impose this fee. But I do have a problem with the general attitude among those servers who say “Well, if you can’t tip at least 15% then you have no business patronizing my employer!”. Which is exactly what you are saying when you say that. And there too you have to ask yourself would you rather have a guaranteed 10% tip or no tip at all. I guarantee you that most times it’s not loss to you as I’m just one of the masses that pass through your establishment and like a vacuum, another customer will fill the void to meet your requirement. However if your establishment is not overflowing with clientele and you are serving at less than your service ability maximum capacity, then my absence does count toward your end of night.

  19. Maria

    I nees some of y’alls opinion, please because i think what the restaurant i went to is was wrong. We were a party of 6 plus one child and a baby, but what i was told that the children dont count, but thats not the point the point is that when we were ready to pay we wanted to pay separated into two tickets so we got our tickets, and they stil added the gratuity on each ticket, so of course we had to say something, because we knew it wasn’t right, but the manger i had told us that it doesn’t matter because its still a party of six they still have to add it even though it’s separate ticket, what i know of gratuity is that you added when it’s of party of six or more if they are all paying together
    together but that was not the case, i would like to know some of y’alls opinion if im right or wrong?

  20. tone

    Listen to mr pinks speech on tipping in the opening scene of resovoir dogs he said it best, if your depending on tips to pay the bills you need to educate yourself and get a real career

  21. rod

    My question is if mandatory tipping is legal as long as it is disclosed in advance, what is considered in advance ? Virtually no one knows for sure till they get the bill.

  22. Abcd

    My beef is the fact that I often tip severs 15-20% in cash and pay the balance with my credit card only to find out later that the server has added in an additional tip when the credit bill comes. Just dined out with friends–a small group. Everyone but me paid their bill with cash. I paid with my credit card and left a 20% tip. Due to being ripped off in the past, I checked my account and sure enough the bill on my account was for the total amount of our dining bill. So, the server gave himself a HUGE tip. I called the restaurants involved and am assured my money will be refunded, but this seems like a deliberate decision made on the part of the server. I waited tables for 2 years and unless procedures have changed, you cash out the signed receipts, not the overall food bill. And it’s such a relatively small scam, that the police would laugh at a report.

  23. Fred

    Ban forced tipping and guilting the client into topping up servers low wages.
    Lobby congress to pay servers like any other person working any job.
    I have no idea how food establishment owners and bar owners have been allowed to get away
    with exploiting their staff in such a manner for so long.
    It’s a shame that nobody complains about the stingy owners only the stingy clients,
    it’s actually the owners you should be against, if they cant afford to pay a living wage to
    their staff then dont open your business. it’s pretty simple.

  24. Ali

    Im a waitress at a fine dining restaurant and all of our patrons know to tip between 18-22% I make about 250-300$ A night. I also have no bartenders or bussers to tip out. I make/pour my own drinks for my customers. I bring bread and re-water all night. I open bottles of wine. I get no help from anyone whatsoever. I also explain specials and know the menu and wine list like the back of my hand. A good waitress is essentially performing a 2 hour one woman/man show for you, so you can have a wonderful experience. I’m Sorry to the people who chose career paths where you don’t make tips. Everyone chooses their own path in life. And trust me, some servers don’t deserve 20% (I get that) but for those of you
    punishing ALL servers because your bitter about your own salary…that’s just plain wrong. And FYI, being a server takes a little portion of your soul every single day. It can be downright degrading having to smile at people treating you like shit. But the customers who appreciate your kindness and excellent service make it all worth it at the end of the day.. Unless you’ve been in this business you cannot possibly imagine the stress our job entails.

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  25. Mim

    When a restaurant is rude enough to add a gratuity, they get zero gratuity. The only hurt themselves when they had a gratuity! I tip based on service, and it’s the service is lousy leave 15% and sometimes will subtract a dollar off that if the service is really bad. But nobody, I repeat nobody tells me how much to leave for a tip. I don’t care if they posted at every table you will only get a tip based on your service and how much I feel is appropriate and nothing more.

    • Anna

      I’m just wondering how you leave “zero” gratuity when gratuity is added. I’m the general manager of a restaurant, and you either pay the added gratuity (disclosed in the menu) or I call the police. Refusing to pay added gratuity is the same as refusing to pay any part of your bill.

  26. Tater

    Coming directly from the DOL website, “Where an employee does not receive sufficient tips to make up the difference between the direct (or cash) wage payment (which must be at least $2.13 per hour) and the minimum wage, the employer must make up the difference.”

    This states that if this equation (salary*hours worked + tips = hours worked*minimum wage) is greater on the right side than the left, that the employer must compensate the difference. You are legally required to make minimum wage. You are, however, not legally required to exceed minimum wage.

    To sum this up, servers are working a minimum wage job with the opportunity to make more than minimum wage through tips. There should be no complaining about lack of tips. If you were unaware that this job was anything different, I urge you to read the federal laws involving your job. It is fully up to the discretion of the customer to determine if a tip is deserved or not.

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    It sound like a good gimmick for restaurants to appear like they care about staff whiile using the loopholes in minimum wage laws to have consumers bear their cost of doing business adding it as a tax instead of raising menu prices, something unique to the USA.
    However, there is a little something the seemingly clever Restauranteur may have not thought of.
    If the restaurant makes all tips compulsory, that makes it legal consideration just like paying fot the cost of the product.
    Since the policy is for payment on behalf of the staff, the consideration makes the staff legal parties to the transaction.
    If there are any legal disputes between any of the three, especially if the claim is large enough for attorneys to become involved, the staff could become equal parties with equal standing and equal liability.
    Might want to budget some of that tip windfall for some blanket insurance coverage.
    The restaurant also just gave a raise to their workers they may have to pay whether the restaurant gets paid or not.
    Since the “Tip” becomes a part of the bill and we know it has to be given to the staff, ask the owners in NYC,
    the Restaurant’s collection abilities are irrelevant for wage & hour payments. If they perform the service the staff
    will be owed the wage. If they dont pay, dtaff could easily file & win wage claims.
    Conversely the Tax Man Cometh. Staff could be compelled to report and pay taxes on “Tips” they EARNED,
    but had not (yet) received, since they are Unpaid Wages.
    Might want to ask an attorney if there is a way of setting yourself up as a legal business so you can
    write off those losses.

  29. Asha Naidu

    I am hosting a 60th birthday party in Dec 2016 in an Indian Restaurant. The restaurant is charging me $25 per guest and has also asked me to pay 18% (18% of the total bill) gratuity – to the cooks, in addition to the bill. I am paying separately for the 2 waiters who will be serving us for the 3 hours we will be in the restaurant.

    Is the 18% gratuity for the cooks reasonable? I am asking because I have never hosted a party at a restaurant before and am not sure if this is normal.

    Thanks in advance for your advice.

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